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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your kind words Sheri! I really enjoyed visiting your site this evening - what a fun mix of art in your portfolio, from sweet babies to rodeo! And plenty of lovely portraits between, your clients are blessed to have you to work with.

Please keep me posted on your successes and adventures! I&#039;d love to hear how your art and business grow in 2012. Thank you for your readership!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your kind words Sheri! I really enjoyed visiting your site this evening &#8211; what a fun mix of art in your portfolio, from sweet babies to rodeo! And plenty of lovely portraits between, your clients are blessed to have you to work with.</p>
<p>Please keep me posted on your successes and adventures! I&#8217;d love to hear how your art and business grow in 2012. Thank you for your readership!</p>
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		<title>By: sheri</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 04:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your site is amazing.. its everything i have been needing, asking, and hunting for over a year. where have u been????  
no words to explain. im sure u hear it daily..
W  O  W  . 
THANKS for improving, empowering, and encouraging as well as teaching......
 i cant get enough.. 
sheri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your site is amazing.. its everything i have been needing, asking, and hunting for over a year. where have u been????<br />
no words to explain. im sure u hear it daily..<br />
W  O  W  .<br />
THANKS for improving, empowering, and encouraging as well as teaching&#8230;&#8230;<br />
 i cant get enough..<br />
sheri</p>
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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 04:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE Images, that sounds cool! Can&#039;t wait to see how your brand your business now that you have a name to put on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE Images, that sounds cool! Can&#8217;t wait to see how your brand your business now that you have a name to put on it!</p>
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		<title>By: Daune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for your insight and encouragement!
Didn&#039;t use my name at all.  T.H.E. Images is what I went with.
Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for your insight and encouragement!<br />
Didn&#8217;t use my name at all.  T.H.E. Images is what I went with.<br />
Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your kind words! Great advice as well for Daune. :-)

Please keep me posted on your adventure into professional photography!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind words! Great advice as well for Daune. <img src='http://parttimephoto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please keep me posted on your adventure into professional photography!</p>
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		<title>By: Lotus Flower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lotus Flower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James, I have been reading your blog since yesterday after coming across it in another photo forum, and I am thoroughly amazed and refreshed to hear your perspective. I went through photo school, have heard plenty of grognard input (not all without merit), and bought into it myself up until fairly recently watching another small business (unrelated) develop in the family &quot;against the grain&quot;. I look forward to learning even more from this awesome resource!

RE: Daune&#039;s naming conundrum . . . what if she changed the spelling of her name to &quot;Daun&quot; and use that as her professional name? The &quot;dawn&quot; pronunciation would be more apparent and less likely to read as &quot;Duane&quot;, and the unusual spelling will catch people&#039;s eyes and make it more likely to stick in their minds--- a sort of guerilla psychological marketing tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James, I have been reading your blog since yesterday after coming across it in another photo forum, and I am thoroughly amazed and refreshed to hear your perspective. I went through photo school, have heard plenty of grognard input (not all without merit), and bought into it myself up until fairly recently watching another small business (unrelated) develop in the family &#8220;against the grain&#8221;. I look forward to learning even more from this awesome resource!</p>
<p>RE: Daune&#8217;s naming conundrum . . . what if she changed the spelling of her name to &#8220;Daun&#8221; and use that as her professional name? The &#8220;dawn&#8221; pronunciation would be more apparent and less likely to read as &#8220;Duane&#8221;, and the unusual spelling will catch people&#8217;s eyes and make it more likely to stick in their minds&#8212; a sort of guerilla psychological marketing tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Daune, thank you for your kind words! And so awesome that you&#039;re just a short ways away! We&#039;ll definitely have to get together to shoot around and talk shop. :-)

I can see how the Daune-Duane thing could make things a bit hard. You could go with D. Smith Photography, or if you have a middle initial, D. X. Smith Photography. You could also get a DBA and use Dawn&#039;s Photography, or a play off of Dawn in some creative fashion. Truly, the name of your business has a minuscule long-term effect on your brand - it&#039;s just a name - so don&#039;t sweat it, and just go with something that speaks to you. Try J.P. Winklebottom&#039;s Philanthropic Photography - it&#039;s all just fun and games. :-)

Without a doubt, not knowing what you&#039;re doing is nothing to fear. Everyone starts there. Everyone can grow beyond it. And always, if you have people asking you to do photos for them and even offering you money to do so, you&#039;re already creating a salable level of art. We artists are insatiable, we always are our harshest critics and we always see art that we love so much more than our own. But that&#039;s how great artists become great artists - that need to improve with every shoot. It&#039;s also how great businesses grow, as well - have as much a need to serve your clientele with a fantastic photography experience as you have a burning desire to better yourself as an artist.

You&#039;ll reap great rewards in this adventure, financial, creative, and social. Enjoy - and thank you for your readership! Please do keep me posted on your decisions and how they turn out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Daune, thank you for your kind words! And so awesome that you&#8217;re just a short ways away! We&#8217;ll definitely have to get together to shoot around and talk shop. <img src='http://parttimephoto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can see how the Daune-Duane thing could make things a bit hard. You could go with D. Smith Photography, or if you have a middle initial, D. X. Smith Photography. You could also get a DBA and use Dawn&#8217;s Photography, or a play off of Dawn in some creative fashion. Truly, the name of your business has a minuscule long-term effect on your brand &#8211; it&#8217;s just a name &#8211; so don&#8217;t sweat it, and just go with something that speaks to you. Try J.P. Winklebottom&#8217;s Philanthropic Photography &#8211; it&#8217;s all just fun and games. <img src='http://parttimephoto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Without a doubt, not knowing what you&#8217;re doing is nothing to fear. Everyone starts there. Everyone can grow beyond it. And always, if you have people asking you to do photos for them and even offering you money to do so, you&#8217;re already creating a salable level of art. We artists are insatiable, we always are our harshest critics and we always see art that we love so much more than our own. But that&#8217;s how great artists become great artists &#8211; that need to improve with every shoot. It&#8217;s also how great businesses grow, as well &#8211; have as much a need to serve your clientele with a fantastic photography experience as you have a burning desire to better yourself as an artist.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll reap great rewards in this adventure, financial, creative, and social. Enjoy &#8211; and thank you for your readership! Please do keep me posted on your decisions and how they turn out!</p>
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		<title>By: Daune, pronounced Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daune, pronounced Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I stumbled on your site while attempting to find help about naming my photography business and am amazed we&#039;re so close in proximity...normally, when you read someone&#039;s blog, etc., they&#039;re a thousand miles away!  
I live in San Antonio, but am originally from Buffalo, NY.
Right now I use Daune Smith Photography, but I don&#039;t really dig being called &#039;Duane&#039;.  That&#039;s JUST not cool...
I wouldn&#039;t say I know what the heck I&#039;m doing, but I love photographing things and people. T
hings are beginning to open up and I&#039;ve been asked to do different pix for people, so I want to get &#039;serious&#039; about this thing!  (And yes, I&#039;ve been wracking my brain on a name...)
I really appreciate your advice.  Looking forward to purusing more of your site. 
Thanks so much.
daune, pronounced Dawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I stumbled on your site while attempting to find help about naming my photography business and am amazed we&#8217;re so close in proximity&#8230;normally, when you read someone&#8217;s blog, etc., they&#8217;re a thousand miles away!<br />
I live in San Antonio, but am originally from Buffalo, NY.<br />
Right now I use Daune Smith Photography, but I don&#8217;t really dig being called &#8216;Duane&#8217;.  That&#8217;s JUST not cool&#8230;<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t say I know what the heck I&#8217;m doing, but I love photographing things and people. T<br />
hings are beginning to open up and I&#8217;ve been asked to do different pix for people, so I want to get &#8216;serious&#8217; about this thing!  (And yes, I&#8217;ve been wracking my brain on a name&#8230;)<br />
I really appreciate your advice.  Looking forward to purusing more of your site.<br />
Thanks so much.<br />
daune, pronounced Dawn</p>
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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Darby! T&amp;I is Team &amp; Individual photography, the group and single shots of sports teams (mostly youth sports). Could also translate to school photography, daycare photography, membership directories, and so forth.

You&#039;re entirely right Darby, every shoot is an opportunity to practice what you know, to do just a few specific things better than your last shoot, and try something new. You only get better each time, so each client always gets the best of you. It&#039;s a win-win for all involved.

Thank you for your kind words! I truly appreciate your readership. Please do keep us posted on your adventures in professional photography!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Darby! T&#038;I is Team &#038; Individual photography, the group and single shots of sports teams (mostly youth sports). Could also translate to school photography, daycare photography, membership directories, and so forth.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re entirely right Darby, every shoot is an opportunity to practice what you know, to do just a few specific things better than your last shoot, and try something new. You only get better each time, so each client always gets the best of you. It&#8217;s a win-win for all involved.</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words! I truly appreciate your readership. Please do keep us posted on your adventures in professional photography!</p>
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		<title>By: Darby Sager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darby Sager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 05:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, what is T&amp;I?
I was just wondering how much post processing to do and you answered it.  Pick 4 or 5 best and do more post processing on them.
I was kind of beating myself up for some &quot;mistakes&quot; I made on this recent shoot but after reading this article and your questions on what I did right, what I&#039;d change for next time, etc., I see all shoots as a learning experience and my art will just get better over time.
I second Ginger&#039;s thanks on your positive, helpful attitude!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, what is T&amp;I?<br />
I was just wondering how much post processing to do and you answered it.  Pick 4 or 5 best and do more post processing on them.<br />
I was kind of beating myself up for some &#8220;mistakes&#8221; I made on this recent shoot but after reading this article and your questions on what I did right, what I&#8217;d change for next time, etc., I see all shoots as a learning experience and my art will just get better over time.<br />
I second Ginger&#8217;s thanks on your positive, helpful attitude!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff &#38; Star: Part 2: A few details &#187; Kate Giovinco Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff &#38; Star: Part 2: A few details &#187; Kate Giovinco Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] go through all the pictures. I sat in a Starbucks in New Orleans sans internet and plugged away at culling and then the beginning of my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much Hans! So glad you&#039;re benefiting from the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Hans! So glad you&#8217;re benefiting from the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly,

Awesome work on the contributions, really gave us upcoming photographers that much of needed advice, otherwise not shared by others. 

I enjoy reading such insightful tips, priceless mate. 

Have a good one!

Hans Andersen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly,</p>
<p>Awesome work on the contributions, really gave us upcoming photographers that much of needed advice, otherwise not shared by others. </p>
<p>I enjoy reading such insightful tips, priceless mate. </p>
<p>Have a good one!</p>
<p>Hans Andersen</p>
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		<title>By: Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your kind words and readership Ginger! I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from the site.

Dance studios, martial arts academies, daycare classes and similar are all great ways to break into the group/school/team and individual photo market. It also gives you some great face time with, and a natural introduction to, a new set of potential family clients.

Re: background stands and lights: when I do location T&amp;I shoots that don&#039;t offer their own nice background naturally, I&#039;ll take my portable studio setup. This consists of a portable background stand (I use a cheap Interfit setup from Amazon), a 9-foot roll of seamless paper, some clips to keep the paper from unrolling itself, a couple of weights to keep the unrolled paper on the floor from curling up on itself, and one or two lights.

For lights I love AlienBees. My most basic setup is just two B800 strobes on stands, one with a big ol&#039; 5-foot rectangular softbox, one with a medium-sized umbrella. This gives me an easy way to do nice, attractive, soft light on one, a few, or many subjects. Depending on how much space you have to work with, you may have to shoot a wider than you want and crop or Photoshop out the edges of your studio setup for the big groups.

The last shoot of this kind I did was for a little girls&#039; athletic academy for cheer and dance. Around the same number of people you mentioned, including two coaches. I used this exact setup with white seamless and the parents were thrilled - said their girls looked like supermodels. Print and file sales weren&#039;t amazing, honestly, but it was a great intro to all the parents whose girls I shot. Landed some good family shoots and repeat clients that proved the real lucrative result of the T&amp;I shoot.

AlienBees might be a bit pricey if you only plan to use them once in a while. You might look at a bargain-priced set of strobes, a hotlight setup, or renting lights from a fellow photog for these shoots. You might even could get away with a single strobe, but you&#039;ll have to get creative and artsy in your lighting to pull it off. Having that extra light does make it twice as easy to get good lookin&#039; photos.

Best of luck on your shoot! Feel free to ask any questions I didn&#039;t answer, and let me know how the shoot turns out for you. I&#039;m sure others in the same situation you&#039;re in would love to read about your experience as well.

Thank you again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind words and readership Ginger! I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from the site.</p>
<p>Dance studios, martial arts academies, daycare classes and similar are all great ways to break into the group/school/team and individual photo market. It also gives you some great face time with, and a natural introduction to, a new set of potential family clients.</p>
<p>Re: background stands and lights: when I do location T&amp;I shoots that don&#8217;t offer their own nice background naturally, I&#8217;ll take my portable studio setup. This consists of a portable background stand (I use a cheap Interfit setup from Amazon), a 9-foot roll of seamless paper, some clips to keep the paper from unrolling itself, a couple of weights to keep the unrolled paper on the floor from curling up on itself, and one or two lights.</p>
<p>For lights I love AlienBees. My most basic setup is just two B800 strobes on stands, one with a big ol&#8217; 5-foot rectangular softbox, one with a medium-sized umbrella. This gives me an easy way to do nice, attractive, soft light on one, a few, or many subjects. Depending on how much space you have to work with, you may have to shoot a wider than you want and crop or Photoshop out the edges of your studio setup for the big groups.</p>
<p>The last shoot of this kind I did was for a little girls&#8217; athletic academy for cheer and dance. Around the same number of people you mentioned, including two coaches. I used this exact setup with white seamless and the parents were thrilled &#8211; said their girls looked like supermodels. Print and file sales weren&#8217;t amazing, honestly, but it was a great intro to all the parents whose girls I shot. Landed some good family shoots and repeat clients that proved the real lucrative result of the T&amp;I shoot.</p>
<p>AlienBees might be a bit pricey if you only plan to use them once in a while. You might look at a bargain-priced set of strobes, a hotlight setup, or renting lights from a fellow photog for these shoots. You might even could get away with a single strobe, but you&#8217;ll have to get creative and artsy in your lighting to pull it off. Having that extra light does make it twice as easy to get good lookin&#8217; photos.</p>
<p>Best of luck on your shoot! Feel free to ask any questions I didn&#8217;t answer, and let me know how the shoot turns out for you. I&#8217;m sure others in the same situation you&#8217;re in would love to read about your experience as well.</p>
<p>Thank you again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading your encouragement to the guy wanting to be a wedding photographer and everyone was so negative.. It was refreshing to not have a no it all attitude when its obvious you know what your&#039;e talkin about.   

I have a quick question, I putting together a bid for a dance studio. I have a small studio, but I am doing this on location.  I will be doing groups of dancers as well as singles. Groyps around 12 girls, not side by side but posed in stacks. Does that make sense..lol I have my own photo lingo...lol..I need to buy some equipment. What size backdrop stand do you recommend. Also lights. I really dont use lights in my studio, because I edited them to the look I want, but with this job I wont have enough time with each photo as with a family or senior.. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ginger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading your encouragement to the guy wanting to be a wedding photographer and everyone was so negative.. It was refreshing to not have a no it all attitude when its obvious you know what your&#8217;e talkin about.   </p>
<p>I have a quick question, I putting together a bid for a dance studio. I have a small studio, but I am doing this on location.  I will be doing groups of dancers as well as singles. Groyps around 12 girls, not side by side but posed in stacks. Does that make sense..lol I have my own photo lingo&#8230;lol..I need to buy some equipment. What size backdrop stand do you recommend. Also lights. I really dont use lights in my studio, because I edited them to the look I want, but with this job I wont have enough time with each photo as with a family or senior.. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ginger</p>
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