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		<title>Comment on How do I get my first photography client? &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 4 by Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh thank you soo much! I have been glued to your blog for the past week. I even showed this blog to my mother, who is not even a photographer and she is addicted now too! It is really really awesome that you are providing such clear, concise useful information that real people can greatly benefit from.  Your humour, humility and honesty makes learning this important material so much fun! Its like an extremely well- written informative novel. You are truly an invaluable resource. I was wondering, would you mind taking a look at my (very simple and shabby) photography Facebook page? Any critique you have would be GREATLY appreciated!! 

https://www.facebook.com/WildTreePhotography</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh thank you soo much! I have been glued to your blog for the past week. I even showed this blog to my mother, who is not even a photographer and she is addicted now too! It is really really awesome that you are providing such clear, concise useful information that real people can greatly benefit from.  Your humour, humility and honesty makes learning this important material so much fun! Its like an extremely well- written informative novel. You are truly an invaluable resource. I was wondering, would you mind taking a look at my (very simple and shabby) photography Facebook page? Any critique you have would be GREATLY appreciated!! </p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/WildTreePhotography" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/WildTreePhotography</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What does a successful part time photographer look like? &#8211; Startup Series, Part 4 by Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 21:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU!! You are such an inspiration. I will read every single thing on this website. I love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU!! You are such an inspiration. I will read every single thing on this website. I love it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to name your photography business by Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 07:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t tell you how great it is to read through your articles/blogs??!! Trying to break into this market, it seems I&#039;ve only talked to hoitey ( sp?)photographers who look down their proverbial noses at us wannabes, or absolutely uninspired  boring sears **sorry if you readers work at sears.. I know, I started out at picture people, lol** type photographers who say things like, &quot;well, this would be a great shot if you could see their faces...&quot; (inwardly I&#039;m screaming!!! Have you never heard of ART!!!!).  So needless to say your comical, yet sane advice is extremely welcome!!  Thanks for the input!
On a side note, is Bandera anywhere near Helotes, TX?? I lived there for my senior year (ah, seems like yesterday, yet ,was, ..well... I won&#039;t say how many years ago!!) I worked at a  Bandera Bowl for awhile.... Loved that little town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how great it is to read through your articles/blogs??!! Trying to break into this market, it seems I&#8217;ve only talked to hoitey ( sp?)photographers who look down their proverbial noses at us wannabes, or absolutely uninspired  boring sears **sorry if you readers work at sears.. I know, I started out at picture people, lol** type photographers who say things like, &#8220;well, this would be a great shot if you could see their faces&#8230;&#8221; (inwardly I&#8217;m screaming!!! Have you never heard of ART!!!!).  So needless to say your comical, yet sane advice is extremely welcome!!  Thanks for the input!<br />
On a side note, is Bandera anywhere near Helotes, TX?? I lived there for my senior year (ah, seems like yesterday, yet ,was, ..well&#8230; I won&#8217;t say how many years ago!!) I worked at a  Bandera Bowl for awhile&#8230;. Loved that little town!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Response time and turnaround – how to beat the competition for free by Bryan Knitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Knitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent advice. This is something I&#039;ve been trying to do without really trying. All of my clients so far LOVE the fact that they get to see their photos so quickly (they&#039;re used to waiting 3-4 weeks from the &quot;other guys&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent advice. This is something I&#8217;ve been trying to do without really trying. All of my clients so far LOVE the fact that they get to see their photos so quickly (they&#8217;re used to waiting 3-4 weeks from the &#8220;other guys&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pricing for growth versus pricing for profit by Bryan Knitter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Knitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 17:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your advice. I&#039;ve taken bits and pieces and applied it to my own business. Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your advice. I&#8217;ve taken bits and pieces and applied it to my own business. Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pricing for growth versus pricing for profit by Delilah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 02:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for you advice on this topic! I agree with your suggestion on Wordpress and I have been looking for a theme that will work for me.  At this point, I think having a site with  a limited number of photos in the portfolio (in my eyes) is better than not having one! So,I think this will be my next step - in addition to continuing to book some free shoots. I&#039;ll be back - and asking for your opinion once my site is done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for you advice on this topic! I agree with your suggestion on WordPress and I have been looking for a theme that will work for me.  At this point, I think having a site with  a limited number of photos in the portfolio (in my eyes) is better than not having one! So,I think this will be my next step &#8211; in addition to continuing to book some free shoots. I&#8217;ll be back &#8211; and asking for your opinion once my site is done!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pricing for growth versus pricing for profit by Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 06:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment Miss Delilah! I do get a lot of questions about photographer web sites, and if I can ever sit down long enough to produce an ebook or video worth selling, this will probably be the first topic I write about. It causes a lot of photographers a great deal of grief.

A good portfolio site is part of the Big Four marketing pieces I recommend Photographers start with (alongside business cards, an e-mail newsletter, and Facebook). Popular as Facebook may be, having your own web domain stocked with your best work and information for clients offers a huge boost to your professionalism and credibility.

I love blog-driven web sites myself - check out Wordpress.org and do a Google search for Wordpress Themes for Photographers. You&#039;ll find a huge variety of free and paid portfolios that are basically turn-key web sites, often with great documentation to help you get everything set up. If you know someone who is web savvy, or have a college nearby from which you could steal a budding web designer for a few hours, you can very inexpensively get set up and trained in how to keep your site updated. There are even paid themes that come with all the support you could need to get set up and running (although they can get pretty expensive).

As for growing your portfolio, you can most certainly offer as many free shoots as you like to get more practice under your belt and broaden the variety of subjects and locations and looks in your portfolio. Don&#039;t get in a comfortable rut, though - it&#039;s easy to shoot for free for far too long, when you could have flipped the switch and been getting paid well for your time much earlier. Set a goal, such as a dozen or so solid shots of different subjects in different locations, and work toward fulfilling that goal. Then flip the switch, and start getting paid for your work. If you go the no session fee, no minimum order route, you run very little risk of running off potential shoots, and you open yourself to the opportunity to start bagging some good sales along the way. As your art and the experience you provide your clients improves, and your marketing and exposure within your market improves commensurate, you&#039;ll only see those numbers and averages improve.

All that said, you can start charging any time you&#039;re ready, web sites and Facebook be damned. I always recommend going by bookings - if you&#039;re booked solid with free shoots for the next month or so, your art and exposure in the community are obviously more than capable of getting you paid bookings. If you&#039;re struggling to keep your desired shooting schedule (whether that&#039;s once a day or once a month) busy, then you may need to continue with free shoots until you&#039;ve better defined and refined your art and what you have to offer your market. Ebb and flow.

Thank you again for your readership! I look forward to hearing what you decide on, and how it turns out for you in the coming months!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment Miss Delilah! I do get a lot of questions about photographer web sites, and if I can ever sit down long enough to produce an ebook or video worth selling, this will probably be the first topic I write about. It causes a lot of photographers a great deal of grief.</p>
<p>A good portfolio site is part of the Big Four marketing pieces I recommend Photographers start with (alongside business cards, an e-mail newsletter, and Facebook). Popular as Facebook may be, having your own web domain stocked with your best work and information for clients offers a huge boost to your professionalism and credibility.</p>
<p>I love blog-driven web sites myself &#8211; check out WordPress.org and do a Google search for WordPress Themes for Photographers. You&#8217;ll find a huge variety of free and paid portfolios that are basically turn-key web sites, often with great documentation to help you get everything set up. If you know someone who is web savvy, or have a college nearby from which you could steal a budding web designer for a few hours, you can very inexpensively get set up and trained in how to keep your site updated. There are even paid themes that come with all the support you could need to get set up and running (although they can get pretty expensive).</p>
<p>As for growing your portfolio, you can most certainly offer as many free shoots as you like to get more practice under your belt and broaden the variety of subjects and locations and looks in your portfolio. Don&#8217;t get in a comfortable rut, though &#8211; it&#8217;s easy to shoot for free for far too long, when you could have flipped the switch and been getting paid well for your time much earlier. Set a goal, such as a dozen or so solid shots of different subjects in different locations, and work toward fulfilling that goal. Then flip the switch, and start getting paid for your work. If you go the no session fee, no minimum order route, you run very little risk of running off potential shoots, and you open yourself to the opportunity to start bagging some good sales along the way. As your art and the experience you provide your clients improves, and your marketing and exposure within your market improves commensurate, you&#8217;ll only see those numbers and averages improve.</p>
<p>All that said, you can start charging any time you&#8217;re ready, web sites and Facebook be damned. I always recommend going by bookings &#8211; if you&#8217;re booked solid with free shoots for the next month or so, your art and exposure in the community are obviously more than capable of getting you paid bookings. If you&#8217;re struggling to keep your desired shooting schedule (whether that&#8217;s once a day or once a month) busy, then you may need to continue with free shoots until you&#8217;ve better defined and refined your art and what you have to offer your market. Ebb and flow.</p>
<p>Thank you again for your readership! I look forward to hearing what you decide on, and how it turns out for you in the coming months!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your first photo proofing and sales session &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 9 by Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 06:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your readership Matt! I greatly enjoyed visiting your site tonight - you create beautiful art! Such a lovely command of light, and shadow!

To answer your question, I think ProSelect is the software you are talking about: http://www.timeexposure.com/ps_review3.php

I can honestly say that, while I have done projected viewing and had great sales results, I&#039;ve never tried to display images to scale. But I&#039;m very big on digital sales, so wall art isn&#039;t my game - if you&#039;re leaning toward the latter, I don&#039;t think you can beat projected proofing. As they say in car sales, &quot;Behind the wheel seals the deal!&quot;

Please do keep me posted, if this software works for your needs, and what the results are for you on the sales side!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your readership Matt! I greatly enjoyed visiting your site tonight &#8211; you create beautiful art! Such a lovely command of light, and shadow!</p>
<p>To answer your question, I think ProSelect is the software you are talking about: <a href="http://www.timeexposure.com/ps_review3.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.timeexposure.com/ps_review3.php</a></p>
<p>I can honestly say that, while I have done projected viewing and had great sales results, I&#8217;ve never tried to display images to scale. But I&#8217;m very big on digital sales, so wall art isn&#8217;t my game &#8211; if you&#8217;re leaning toward the latter, I don&#8217;t think you can beat projected proofing. As they say in car sales, &#8220;Behind the wheel seals the deal!&#8221;</p>
<p>Please do keep me posted, if this software works for your needs, and what the results are for you on the sales side!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The legalities of starting a part time photography business &#8211; Startup Series, Part 3 by Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your kind words Stephanie! It sounds like you&#039;re building a great foundation for your business - please do keep in touch and let me know of your successes and adventures this year! If you let yourself, I promise you will enjoy the journey as you take on the role, responsibility, and rewards of being a professional photographer. It&#039;s more fun than we should probably let on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your kind words Stephanie! It sounds like you&#8217;re building a great foundation for your business &#8211; please do keep in touch and let me know of your successes and adventures this year! If you let yourself, I promise you will enjoy the journey as you take on the role, responsibility, and rewards of being a professional photographer. It&#8217;s more fun than we should probably let on!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do I get my first photography client? &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 4 by Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the update Miss Lisa, I&#039;m so very happy to hear of your successes! What an adventure it is, eh? Congratulations on your first paid job! I shall lift a cup of tea tomorrow in celebration (and I mean that in all seriousness)!

Please do keep me posted on your progress! You have a great attitude, and I have no doubts, great successes ahead of you. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the update Miss Lisa, I&#8217;m so very happy to hear of your successes! What an adventure it is, eh? Congratulations on your first paid job! I shall lift a cup of tea tomorrow in celebration (and I mean that in all seriousness)!</p>
<p>Please do keep me posted on your progress! You have a great attitude, and I have no doubts, great successes ahead of you. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What should I charge for my part time photography? &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 3 by Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment Vianna! I&#039;ve surely had many clients over the years who have bought little or nothing, but I&#039;ve been blessed in that they have made up the vast minority of my clientele. They cheapies do exist, and it&#039;s inevitable you&#039;ll run into them, especially with such a great offer as no session fee and very affordable products.

What I&#039;ve learned over the years is that cheap clients usually come as a result of cheap marketing. If I&#039;m running around town shouting from the rooftops that I&#039;m doing free shoots with only $10 prints, I&#039;m begging to end up with a bunch of clients that just want to spend $10 or $20.

As in all things, there is a balance to be achieved.

My goal is always to stay booked to my personal desired capacity. Whether for you that&#039;s five shoots a week or one, you know about how often you like to or want to shoot.

In the early stages of your business, any client is a good client. Every single one lets you grow as an artist and business owner. They allow you to experiment, fail, and grow using live guinea pigs for fodder. They let you poke at this price, prod at that policy, and begin to really define and refine your work. All the while, improving your artistic talents.

That said, if you&#039;re booked solid with cheapie clients, don&#039;t be afraid to raise your prices, or likely better, stop marketing yourself on price and start marketing yourself solely on art and the experience you create for your clients. This was a big step I took once my art was good enough to keep me booked solid for a month or two in advance - and when you stop advertising price, you start getting clients whose primary concern is your great art, not your great prices. When they find out how low risk your pricing schedule is, they don&#039;t hesitate to book.

Early on, it takes very little stress or worry to offer no session fee, no minimum order, and prints/files starting at just $xx. When your art and experience mature, it takes a lot of confidence to sell on the same platform - the onus truly is on you to create art so excellent and varied that your clients can&#039;t keep from buying it.

There&#039;s certainly an argument that digital files are premium products (maximum size, unlimited number of reproductions, kills potential for follow-up sales). There&#039;s also an argument that digital files are virtually free (can be reproduced infinitely without cost, a CD full to the brim costs a fraction of even the smallest print). When you&#039;re setting prices for any product, have a reason - a real, arguable, logical reason for why you charge what you charge, for any product.

I love selling digital files - I love the ease, I love the simplicity, I love educating my clients on what cool things they can do with those images, I love seeing my images all over Facebook, I love empowering clients, I love just handing over a CD and not having to stress about what the lab will or will not have done to my image upon its printer, I love that what I hand my client is a pure and perfect copy of what I showed them when they made their purchase.

There are many, many photographers who love prints and wall art for a completely different set of reasons, and for those photogs, it makes sense that they price digital much more expensively, or don&#039;t sell digital at all - it&#039;s not what they or their clients love. Every photographer, and every market, has its own personality.

To directly answer your questions:

- When I hand over digital files to a client, I always educate them as to where to get the best prints, what will happen if they print at a one-hour shop or drugstore, what cool stuff they can do with the files, how they may look different on different computers because of monitor calibration, etc. A little education goes a long way to ensure the client knows how to get the most out of their images.

- I have never feared what my clients might do to my art. I&#039;m too busy photographing more clients. If one out of a hundred load up my images into Paint Shop Pro and make them look like a dog threw up a cat, and then post their artistic interpretation to Facebook or their wall or wherever, it&#039;s still just one client out of a hundred. The breadth and depth of my portfolio, online and in print, the art I show in my marketing pieces and advertising, on social media, and what my other 99 clients share in pure form with their friends and family, creates a tidal wave of good impressions that reduce any lesser examples to impotence.

- If you worry about your clients buying digital files and printing them too low of quality, educate your client as to where they can get best quality work done. Hand them the keys to the kingdom. The professional lab I use has a consumer division that produces prints and products of near-indistinguishable quality from what I sell for much, much more. And I tell my clients as much. I give them the web address, and tell them how easy it is to just upload and order &quot;for just a few dollars more than what you&#039;ll pay for fuzzy, off-color prints from Walmart.&quot;

- If you do offer files at a higher price, you just shift your place in the market more toward prints. You&#039;ll market to and earn more clients who want prints, desktop framed images, wallets, and hopefully, nice wall art to enjoy for generations. I only recommend photographers push a more digital-friendly offering because it&#039;s what the majority of the market wants, it&#039;s very low-risk and low-cost to the photographer, it breaks the mold of what most other professional photographers do, and most importantly and true of anything I recommend here on PTP, it works very well for me. When a client buys a full CD of images from me, even at a highly discounted price, I look at my per-hour earnings (in pocket, after all expenses), and grin like a Cheshire cat.

Your questions are fully valid, indeed I should write an article on the &quot;letting go&quot; aspect of selling digital files, and I thank you for the inspiration. If you focus on ever-improving your value to clients, through better art and a better experience, you&#039;ll quickly grow beyond pricing and soon be able to book yourself solid on the merits of your good work alone - which leads to an equally better quality of client, as well.

Please do keep me posted on your progress, how you decide to handle and price your files and prints, and what the results are for you this year! Don&#039;t be afraid to experiment for a few months, then change things up and see how your business changes with it. Nothing is ever set in stone - never forget, you&#039;re the boss, you&#039;re in charge. Look at it as an adventure, a grand and profitable experiment, which only grows more profitable over time. It&#039;s a wonderful profession to enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment Vianna! I&#8217;ve surely had many clients over the years who have bought little or nothing, but I&#8217;ve been blessed in that they have made up the vast minority of my clientele. They cheapies do exist, and it&#8217;s inevitable you&#8217;ll run into them, especially with such a great offer as no session fee and very affordable products.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve learned over the years is that cheap clients usually come as a result of cheap marketing. If I&#8217;m running around town shouting from the rooftops that I&#8217;m doing free shoots with only $10 prints, I&#8217;m begging to end up with a bunch of clients that just want to spend $10 or $20.</p>
<p>As in all things, there is a balance to be achieved.</p>
<p>My goal is always to stay booked to my personal desired capacity. Whether for you that&#8217;s five shoots a week or one, you know about how often you like to or want to shoot.</p>
<p>In the early stages of your business, any client is a good client. Every single one lets you grow as an artist and business owner. They allow you to experiment, fail, and grow using live guinea pigs for fodder. They let you poke at this price, prod at that policy, and begin to really define and refine your work. All the while, improving your artistic talents.</p>
<p>That said, if you&#8217;re booked solid with cheapie clients, don&#8217;t be afraid to raise your prices, or likely better, stop marketing yourself on price and start marketing yourself solely on art and the experience you create for your clients. This was a big step I took once my art was good enough to keep me booked solid for a month or two in advance &#8211; and when you stop advertising price, you start getting clients whose primary concern is your great art, not your great prices. When they find out how low risk your pricing schedule is, they don&#8217;t hesitate to book.</p>
<p>Early on, it takes very little stress or worry to offer no session fee, no minimum order, and prints/files starting at just $xx. When your art and experience mature, it takes a lot of confidence to sell on the same platform &#8211; the onus truly is on you to create art so excellent and varied that your clients can&#8217;t keep from buying it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s certainly an argument that digital files are premium products (maximum size, unlimited number of reproductions, kills potential for follow-up sales). There&#8217;s also an argument that digital files are virtually free (can be reproduced infinitely without cost, a CD full to the brim costs a fraction of even the smallest print). When you&#8217;re setting prices for any product, have a reason &#8211; a real, arguable, logical reason for why you charge what you charge, for any product.</p>
<p>I love selling digital files &#8211; I love the ease, I love the simplicity, I love educating my clients on what cool things they can do with those images, I love seeing my images all over Facebook, I love empowering clients, I love just handing over a CD and not having to stress about what the lab will or will not have done to my image upon its printer, I love that what I hand my client is a pure and perfect copy of what I showed them when they made their purchase.</p>
<p>There are many, many photographers who love prints and wall art for a completely different set of reasons, and for those photogs, it makes sense that they price digital much more expensively, or don&#8217;t sell digital at all &#8211; it&#8217;s not what they or their clients love. Every photographer, and every market, has its own personality.</p>
<p>To directly answer your questions:</p>
<p>- When I hand over digital files to a client, I always educate them as to where to get the best prints, what will happen if they print at a one-hour shop or drugstore, what cool stuff they can do with the files, how they may look different on different computers because of monitor calibration, etc. A little education goes a long way to ensure the client knows how to get the most out of their images.</p>
<p>- I have never feared what my clients might do to my art. I&#8217;m too busy photographing more clients. If one out of a hundred load up my images into Paint Shop Pro and make them look like a dog threw up a cat, and then post their artistic interpretation to Facebook or their wall or wherever, it&#8217;s still just one client out of a hundred. The breadth and depth of my portfolio, online and in print, the art I show in my marketing pieces and advertising, on social media, and what my other 99 clients share in pure form with their friends and family, creates a tidal wave of good impressions that reduce any lesser examples to impotence.</p>
<p>- If you worry about your clients buying digital files and printing them too low of quality, educate your client as to where they can get best quality work done. Hand them the keys to the kingdom. The professional lab I use has a consumer division that produces prints and products of near-indistinguishable quality from what I sell for much, much more. And I tell my clients as much. I give them the web address, and tell them how easy it is to just upload and order &#8220;for just a few dollars more than what you&#8217;ll pay for fuzzy, off-color prints from Walmart.&#8221;</p>
<p>- If you do offer files at a higher price, you just shift your place in the market more toward prints. You&#8217;ll market to and earn more clients who want prints, desktop framed images, wallets, and hopefully, nice wall art to enjoy for generations. I only recommend photographers push a more digital-friendly offering because it&#8217;s what the majority of the market wants, it&#8217;s very low-risk and low-cost to the photographer, it breaks the mold of what most other professional photographers do, and most importantly and true of anything I recommend here on PTP, it works very well for me. When a client buys a full CD of images from me, even at a highly discounted price, I look at my per-hour earnings (in pocket, after all expenses), and grin like a Cheshire cat.</p>
<p>Your questions are fully valid, indeed I should write an article on the &#8220;letting go&#8221; aspect of selling digital files, and I thank you for the inspiration. If you focus on ever-improving your value to clients, through better art and a better experience, you&#8217;ll quickly grow beyond pricing and soon be able to book yourself solid on the merits of your good work alone &#8211; which leads to an equally better quality of client, as well.</p>
<p>Please do keep me posted on your progress, how you decide to handle and price your files and prints, and what the results are for you this year! Don&#8217;t be afraid to experiment for a few months, then change things up and see how your business changes with it. Nothing is ever set in stone &#8211; never forget, you&#8217;re the boss, you&#8217;re in charge. Look at it as an adventure, a grand and profitable experiment, which only grows more profitable over time. It&#8217;s a wonderful profession to enjoy!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never Vianna, I welcome your readership! Thank you for your comments!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Your first photo proofing and sales session &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 9 by Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlaw Photographer James Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment and kind words Vianna! I love your logo on your web site! And your photos are lovely as well!

As long as you are proofing online, you&#039;re going to have a glass ceiling on your sales averages. Putting photos online takes away a huge opportunity, through in-person viewing and &#039;sales,&#039; to further your relationship with your client. It&#039;s a major touchpoint in your timeline with any given client, and it&#039;s very hard to improve sales when you&#039;ve handed over the responsibility to a web site or gallery.

I highly recommend switching to in-person viewings, in your home studio on your desktop computer, at a neutral ground like a coffee shop on your laptop, on your iPad, whatever you&#039;re able to do. You will see measurable improvements in your sales averages (and likely also your referrals and repeat clients) very quickly.

That said, there are plenty of photographers who have enjoyed success with online proofing. If you stick with this route, I&#039;d suggest trying to let your words serve as a tour guide and consultant when you send out your e-mail to your client with the link to their album.

- Be friendly, be personal; talk a bit about how you enjoyed the shoot, include specific moments, and what you feel about the photos that have come out of the shoot.

- By this point, I assume you have talked with your client (pre-shoot and during) and have a good understanding of what they wanted to end up with from the experience - wall art, wallets, digital files, etc. Use this knowledge as your primary area of commentary in suggesting certain images to match those purposes. The client can always buy what they want, but you&#039;re the expert; don&#039;t be afraid to offer guidance and suggestions.

- Always tack on an additional, creative idea - a product or usage for the photos your client may not have thought of. I always like to encourage my clients toward canvas, wall clings, accordion prints, whatever I think they might find cool. Always create a little window of opportunity for clients to see something they didn&#039;t know about, and invest if it excites them.

- Have a &#039;sale&#039;, a special of any kind, that encourages your client toward buying a product or package you love to sell. For example, I always offer a big discount on CDs that include all my hi-res files from a shoot. It costs me next to nothing to produce other than processing time, and over half my clients buy it upon suggestion. The savings are deep per-image, but the cost is always more than my average per-client sale - which just serves to raise my per-client sales averages!

- Be clear about how they can order, and what happens then - are the proofs fully edited or just for exposure? Are blemishes removed on anything your client buys? What&#039;s the turnaround time for what they could order (prints, wall art, files on CD)? Is there any tax or are the prices as-is? Bulk discounts? You don&#039;t have to say yes to all this, you just have to answer the five most likely questions a client may ask.

- Ensure the tone and texture of your e-mail is focused on helping your client buy what they love. The goal is never to maximize sales, upsell, or get a client to buy something they don&#039;t really want. By the time you deliver proofs, you should have a dang clear idea of what your client wants to do with the art you&#039;ve created. Show them how best to make that happen, and give them &quot;one more thing&quot; (as Steve Jobs loved to do) to potentially multiply their enjoyment of your art.

Please do keep me posted on your successes and adventures! I look forward to hearing how your sales improve here in 2012!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment and kind words Vianna! I love your logo on your web site! And your photos are lovely as well!</p>
<p>As long as you are proofing online, you&#8217;re going to have a glass ceiling on your sales averages. Putting photos online takes away a huge opportunity, through in-person viewing and &#8216;sales,&#8217; to further your relationship with your client. It&#8217;s a major touchpoint in your timeline with any given client, and it&#8217;s very hard to improve sales when you&#8217;ve handed over the responsibility to a web site or gallery.</p>
<p>I highly recommend switching to in-person viewings, in your home studio on your desktop computer, at a neutral ground like a coffee shop on your laptop, on your iPad, whatever you&#8217;re able to do. You will see measurable improvements in your sales averages (and likely also your referrals and repeat clients) very quickly.</p>
<p>That said, there are plenty of photographers who have enjoyed success with online proofing. If you stick with this route, I&#8217;d suggest trying to let your words serve as a tour guide and consultant when you send out your e-mail to your client with the link to their album.</p>
<p>- Be friendly, be personal; talk a bit about how you enjoyed the shoot, include specific moments, and what you feel about the photos that have come out of the shoot.</p>
<p>- By this point, I assume you have talked with your client (pre-shoot and during) and have a good understanding of what they wanted to end up with from the experience &#8211; wall art, wallets, digital files, etc. Use this knowledge as your primary area of commentary in suggesting certain images to match those purposes. The client can always buy what they want, but you&#8217;re the expert; don&#8217;t be afraid to offer guidance and suggestions.</p>
<p>- Always tack on an additional, creative idea &#8211; a product or usage for the photos your client may not have thought of. I always like to encourage my clients toward canvas, wall clings, accordion prints, whatever I think they might find cool. Always create a little window of opportunity for clients to see something they didn&#8217;t know about, and invest if it excites them.</p>
<p>- Have a &#8216;sale&#8217;, a special of any kind, that encourages your client toward buying a product or package you love to sell. For example, I always offer a big discount on CDs that include all my hi-res files from a shoot. It costs me next to nothing to produce other than processing time, and over half my clients buy it upon suggestion. The savings are deep per-image, but the cost is always more than my average per-client sale &#8211; which just serves to raise my per-client sales averages!</p>
<p>- Be clear about how they can order, and what happens then &#8211; are the proofs fully edited or just for exposure? Are blemishes removed on anything your client buys? What&#8217;s the turnaround time for what they could order (prints, wall art, files on CD)? Is there any tax or are the prices as-is? Bulk discounts? You don&#8217;t have to say yes to all this, you just have to answer the five most likely questions a client may ask.</p>
<p>- Ensure the tone and texture of your e-mail is focused on helping your client buy what they love. The goal is never to maximize sales, upsell, or get a client to buy something they don&#8217;t really want. By the time you deliver proofs, you should have a dang clear idea of what your client wants to do with the art you&#8217;ve created. Show them how best to make that happen, and give them &#8220;one more thing&#8221; (as Steve Jobs loved to do) to potentially multiply their enjoyment of your art.</p>
<p>Please do keep me posted on your successes and adventures! I look forward to hearing how your sales improve here in 2012!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Delilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Again!
I can&#039;t get enough of your site.  I&#039;m still reading through old posts as I find them so helpful! Anyway, I have a question about building a website/portfolio... what are your thoughts on how to appoach this?  Even with the lower pricing you&#039;ve suggested, it seems that I will need a website and enough pictures to fill a &quot;portfolio&quot; type gallery -  in order to establish some credibility as a photographer. Or, at least to show samples of my work/style. I&#039;m leaning toward building a site with what I have - but I really don&#039;t feel like I have enough variety of subjects. Would you suggest offering services for free in the beginning - just to get started?  I&#039;ve seen others listing services for free (TFCD) on Craigslist - is this a good strategy? Or, just moving forward with the pricing strategy  - without a site initally - and build as you go. Thanks so much for your help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Again!<br />
I can&#8217;t get enough of your site.  I&#8217;m still reading through old posts as I find them so helpful! Anyway, I have a question about building a website/portfolio&#8230; what are your thoughts on how to appoach this?  Even with the lower pricing you&#8217;ve suggested, it seems that I will need a website and enough pictures to fill a &#8220;portfolio&#8221; type gallery &#8211;  in order to establish some credibility as a photographer. Or, at least to show samples of my work/style. I&#8217;m leaning toward building a site with what I have &#8211; but I really don&#8217;t feel like I have enough variety of subjects. Would you suggest offering services for free in the beginning &#8211; just to get started?  I&#8217;ve seen others listing services for free (TFCD) on Craigslist &#8211; is this a good strategy? Or, just moving forward with the pricing strategy  &#8211; without a site initally &#8211; and build as you go. Thanks so much for your help!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your first photo proofing and sales session &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 9 by Matt Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 21:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey James,

One quick question.  I already have the projector, screen, etcetc. but would like to display photos to scale.  IE: &quot;Here&#039;s what an 8x10 looks like on the wall.. and here&#039;s what a 40x60 looks like&quot;

I&#039;ve heard this software exists, but I honestly can&#039;t find it for the life of me.  Any thoughts?

Thanks!  Excellent article.. all very true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey James,</p>
<p>One quick question.  I already have the projector, screen, etcetc. but would like to display photos to scale.  IE: &#8220;Here&#8217;s what an 8&#215;10 looks like on the wall.. and here&#8217;s what a 40&#215;60 looks like&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard this software exists, but I honestly can&#8217;t find it for the life of me.  Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Thanks!  Excellent article.. all very true!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The legalities of starting a part time photography business &#8211; Startup Series, Part 3 by Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 07:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my Gosh I am SO glad I came across this website!! You are amazing Mr. James Taylor, and so much help!! I&#039;m reading crossed eyed as its 3:43 am here.. but I can&#039;t stop reading all your helpful posts! I am just starting in the photography business, I&#039;ve taken a DSLR and Photoshop Workshop.. and I am currently in a Business Workshop with Rachel Brenke to get my business up and running legit, and legally! But, I am always searching for more resources, inspiration and helpful posts- again, SO glad I found this!! God Bless You, and Thank You!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my Gosh I am SO glad I came across this website!! You are amazing Mr. James Taylor, and so much help!! I&#8217;m reading crossed eyed as its 3:43 am here.. but I can&#8217;t stop reading all your helpful posts! I am just starting in the photography business, I&#8217;ve taken a DSLR and Photoshop Workshop.. and I am currently in a Business Workshop with Rachel Brenke to get my business up and running legit, and legally! But, I am always searching for more resources, inspiration and helpful posts- again, SO glad I found this!! God Bless You, and Thank You!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do I get my first photography client? &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 4 by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your marvelous reply!!  Your devotion to this blog and helping new photographers is truly inspiring.  You&#039;ll be happy to hear that I just (as in two days ago) landed my first gig (at your recommended pricing) with a senior.  I&#039;ve been following your advice and, honestly, I wouldn&#039;t have taken this step without it.  It&#039;s given me confidence, and not asking for a huge session fee or purchase commitments does give me the freedom to be more approachable and honest with potential clients because I know they lose nothing if I don&#039;t do a good job (which is the fear).  I know I&#039;ll do well. I&#039;ve been doing this for pleasure for years and have worked hard at getting good at it (including just finishing up a lighting course at my local community college, along with all the other workshops I&#039;ve gone to on other photography topics).  I&#039;ll let you know how it goes!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your marvelous reply!!  Your devotion to this blog and helping new photographers is truly inspiring.  You&#8217;ll be happy to hear that I just (as in two days ago) landed my first gig (at your recommended pricing) with a senior.  I&#8217;ve been following your advice and, honestly, I wouldn&#8217;t have taken this step without it.  It&#8217;s given me confidence, and not asking for a huge session fee or purchase commitments does give me the freedom to be more approachable and honest with potential clients because I know they lose nothing if I don&#8217;t do a good job (which is the fear).  I know I&#8217;ll do well. I&#8217;ve been doing this for pleasure for years and have worked hard at getting good at it (including just finishing up a lighting course at my local community college, along with all the other workshops I&#8217;ve gone to on other photography topics).  I&#8217;ll let you know how it goes!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What should I charge for my part time photography? &#8211; Your First Customer Series, Part 3 by Vianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 01:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI James, Me again!
I am using your guide, and it is working a treat, Im getting clients, I&#039;m loving the work, the clients are loving the final images, but I feel as though I am putting a great deal of time and effort into getting the perfect image only to have the client want to pay $10 for ONE 4x6 print...I feel a bit used and abused!!!
I am struggling (mentally) with the whole digital file part too. I know it works well for you, and I commend you, for being able to keep your prices low after so many years. but I have a couple of questions for you...
I believe that digital files are a premium product, am I being too precious?
Do you not worry that when the client prints the image with another supplier, the colour and quality may not be to their satisfaction.
And, are you not worried that an inferior product could bring your talent down?
Just a couple of things that worry me...If I offer the digital files, at a lower price, the client WILL go and get them printed, not only do I loose money , but the image will definatly be of lesser quality and not colour correct...Im not sure how I feel about this.
If I offer the files at a higher price, I loose out and look like Im trying to make money out of doing nothing...
Any Ideas how to tackle this...or am I just being a control freak...give in and sell the files cheap and let the client deal with the repercussions?????
Sorry... staring to ramble now!!!!
Thanks again James, your blog has been a wonderful help to me! 
Cheers, Vianna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI James, Me again!<br />
I am using your guide, and it is working a treat, Im getting clients, I&#8217;m loving the work, the clients are loving the final images, but I feel as though I am putting a great deal of time and effort into getting the perfect image only to have the client want to pay $10 for ONE 4&#215;6 print&#8230;I feel a bit used and abused!!!<br />
I am struggling (mentally) with the whole digital file part too. I know it works well for you, and I commend you, for being able to keep your prices low after so many years. but I have a couple of questions for you&#8230;<br />
I believe that digital files are a premium product, am I being too precious?<br />
Do you not worry that when the client prints the image with another supplier, the colour and quality may not be to their satisfaction.<br />
And, are you not worried that an inferior product could bring your talent down?<br />
Just a couple of things that worry me&#8230;If I offer the digital files, at a lower price, the client WILL go and get them printed, not only do I loose money , but the image will definatly be of lesser quality and not colour correct&#8230;Im not sure how I feel about this.<br />
If I offer the files at a higher price, I loose out and look like Im trying to make money out of doing nothing&#8230;<br />
Any Ideas how to tackle this&#8230;or am I just being a control freak&#8230;give in and sell the files cheap and let the client deal with the repercussions?????<br />
Sorry&#8230; staring to ramble now!!!!<br />
Thanks again James, your blog has been a wonderful help to me!<br />
Cheers, Vianna</p>
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		<dc:creator>Vianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 04:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome Advice!!! 
Im loving this site...I think you are going to get sick of me!

Thank you, Vianna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome Advice!!!<br />
Im loving this site&#8230;I think you are going to get sick of me!</p>
<p>Thank you, Vianna</p>
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		<dc:creator>Vianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 04:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmmm....Ive just made all of those mistakes...but at least I now know what I am doing wrong!
Thanks for your post and sharing your knowledge and experience. I look forward to combing through this blog for more info that can help build my new business.

I was wondering, what would you suggest I do now that I have put my images up on line for viewing and how I can get the client to buy more products. 

Thanks and I await your reply.
Vianna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmmm&#8230;.Ive just made all of those mistakes&#8230;but at least I now know what I am doing wrong!<br />
Thanks for your post and sharing your knowledge and experience. I look forward to combing through this blog for more info that can help build my new business.</p>
<p>I was wondering, what would you suggest I do now that I have put my images up on line for viewing and how I can get the client to buy more products. </p>
<p>Thanks and I await your reply.<br />
Vianna</p>
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